Wednesday, 14 May 2008
The things I do for Jesus.
Of to Perth this morning to take part in the AGM of the Scottish Prayer Book Society in St John's Perth. We're not as fudddy duddy as we used to be - we have a new website! I was down to officiate at Mattins and to Deacon the Eucharist celebrated by +Ted Luscome the former Primus. Best bit was the talk from Andrew Barr, formerly convenor of the Liturgy Committee. Won't report it here, as he's written it up in "Inspires". Or 'Despairs' as it known in some quarters. I think that is so negative. I prefer to think of it as the Pisky Pravda. At least it has pikkies. Although a bit thin on Isvestia from time to time. I suppose it would be better if more people wrote in with contributions. That said it really has improved terrifically since it started and is allways worth a quick peruse.
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We should not think of the things we do for Jesus, but on the things He does for us! Like giving us modern language liturgies for starters!
ReplyDeleteWe need 2 think both of what we do 4 Jesus and what he does 4 us, so that we are inspired/enabled to do more! I thought Scottish modern language liturgies were from +Michael Hare-Duke,Gian Tellini & Brian Hardy, not Jesus? Jesus gave us the Holy Spirit in diverse tounges, including Cramnerian English!
ReplyDeleteIt was a joke, Dougal! BTW the stuff we use now was shaped by my liturgy classes with Gian Tellini, which resulted in the Orange Book. (remember that? - I do fondly!) Michael Hare Duke then insisted we bring in poets to help!
ReplyDeleteI know its a joke! I vaguely recall the orange book, but I joined the SEC in 1985, so I never used it really. 2 years as an English curate taught me fast that the Blue Book is better than anything the Church of Englandshire ever produce, including Common Worship. 1982 is very, very good and I use it most of the time. But I'd hate to lose the 1929 Liturgy and Choral Evensong is a treasure which no modern version can ever surpass.
ReplyDeleteAgreed! Still use it at St Aug's!
ReplyDeleteQuestion? English Office or SL 1929?
ReplyDeleteBoth. Prefer SL. Also Compline, Evensong, and Mattins. I'm one of those old fashioned guys who still uses the SPB for my Daily Office, with the psalter!
ReplyDeleteHoly moley! Even I use the Roman office normally. Only need one book so less complicated. I'm a bear of very little brain, you know.
ReplyDeleteThat's why I iuse the SPB. Everything in one book, and I could never find my way around the Roman stuff.
ReplyDeleteSPB I found I needed a bible & a hymn book( 3 vols) so RC needed just one. Heck even RC clergy can work it out!
ReplyDeleteI prefer my bible readings to be from my bible. So, I guess I use this and my new Piscky lectionary. Hymn Book??? Never sing hymns to myself!
ReplyDeleteHmm..prob I have is the collects in SPB don't really match 3 year themes. Roman book has quite we hymns you hum + the big daud of patristics in office of readings that can be quite illuminating. Still it is horses 4 courses.
ReplyDeleteHere was I thinking you had a clutch of comment-makers and I find it's just yous two! My tuppenceworth: I was a member of the Provincial Synod which passed the revisions of the Orange Book - I remember using a typed-out A4 version of it for the Synod Eucharist one year! (Oh dear. My age is showing)
ReplyDeleteAh.... The Orange Book! I still treasure the copy I have left! The Confession and Absolution was so much more meaty than what we ended up with! We believed in sin, in those days.
ReplyDeleteMy only actual experience of the Yellow Peril (as I heard it was called)was at a course on inter faith dialogue at the College of the Ascension Selly Oak. The Principal used it tao make me feel at home..in 1993! He was rather disappointed when I pointed out we hadn't used it in Scotland for 11 years.
ReplyDeleteThink I agree with kenny on the confession. What ws wrong with the wee confession from Mattins/evensong?